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Dark Days by Kate Ormand
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"I see more in you than you’ll ever know. You’re so special, so extraordinary."
LIES! LIES!

This is the worst dystopian book I have read this year. It's not even the so-bad-it's-good type of book, because I feel like I lost IQ points reading this. It is not just some elements, it's the entire book. I hardly know where to start because this book was so terribly written. This is the Advance Review Copy, and I can only pray that the book gets severely edited before it is published.

The plot can only be described as "deranged." The setting and background are generic and nonexistent. The entire book is filled with deus ex fucking machina. Despite the fact that there's a countdown until the day you die, there is no sense of urgency in the book. There is no characterization for the main characters, there is no depth to any of the characters, adults are portrayed as one-dimensional idiots or as severe masterminds who just really, really need a kid to school them on how to do things.

And the villains? They say things like this:
“We’ll catch you, you stupid girl! You will die! Painfully and slowly!”
My main complaint is the plot. It is ludicrously bad. There is no sense in the pacing. A good chunk of the book is devoted to absolutely nothing, while what should have been a core element of the plot was executed and completed in about 15% of the book. The plot meanders. It focuses on irrelevant things, and completely skips over the essential bits.

The Summary: This is the end of the world, as we know it.



And man, is it boring.

Sia has 15 days to live. It's not just her, it's everyone in the "sector," a grayscale planned community surrounded by walls. For some fucking reason, the government had decided that worthless people (those deemed to be noncontributors) are going to be abolished. Specially selected people are going to be airlifted into a blissful compound known as the New World. But for the rest of the unfortunates not good enough to make it? It's death by cyborg.
He told me that those who aren’t chosen will be slaughtered by an army.
A cyborg army.
Sia only has 15 days to live, and so she's pretty limited to what she can do with her time. On her list:
4. Kiss a boy and fall in love.
It sounds so stupid, but I want to meet a boy. I want my first kiss, and I want to fall in love. But nobody can meet someone and fall in love in fifteen days, right?
As Justin Bieber says, "never say never."

Next thing you know, she meets a mysterious boy. Who's a liar with a gun. And he makes her feel all fluttery inside when he winks.
Wow.
My knees actually wobble beneath me. My breath catches in my throat. All for such a small, insignificant gesture.
OH CRAP, RIGHT. We're in a dystopian novel, guys! We should probably move along with the...plot?

Apparently, the boy (whose name is Mace, as in the stuff girls carry around in their purse who spray into would-be-thief/rapist/stalkers' eyes) is interested in her. O_ô He hands her a note, a cryptic note.
I saw something in you. Something more than I see in most. At 9am, meet me where you fell the first time we met. I will explain more when I see you.
Sia breaks her promise to her father and sneaks away to meet Mace, because it's so completely safe to meet a strange gun-toting guy who lies about his name all alone, if he happens to be cute.

It turns out that, ah ha! Mace isn't just interested in Sia for her body! He wants something from Sia, Mace thinks she's capable of helping his Secret Army. Sia is just fucking offended because he's not interested in her.
I thought he liked me. I thought he’d asked me to meet him because he liked me and wanted to get to know me. But now it seems as though I’m only here because he wants me to fight with some group he’s involved in.
Apparently, the people in their sector aren't going to take the cyborg invasion lying down! They're going to start an army (with 24 people. Yes, I'm dead serious.). This grand army is going to train, they're going to work out, they're going to get into fantastic physical shape in order to BEAT THE CYBORGS!!!!!!!

Naturally, there's not a whole lot of time left! The cyborg army is going to invade and tear them apart in less than 2 weeks!!! They have to make excellent use of every moment of their time to prepare themselves for the invasion. They have to do things like...visit a flower field. Wait, what?
The land is made up of only lush, green grass and red, yellow, and white flowers.
We stay on the hill for hours, enjoying the fresh air and staring at the beautiful landscape.
Let's try this again. Time is of the essence, so they must...have a romantic swim in the lake. Um.
Mace holds my arm and spins me around so that we are face-to-face. My hands are still looped around his neck, my fingers brushing against the bottom of his hair. We’re inches apart.
NEVER MIND. They have to learn how to be deadly killers! Yes, that's it!
“What are you trying to do?” Cass says. “Kill her with kisses?”
Amidst all this snuggling, embracing, and kissing, Sia is actually trying to save the world. You see, she met someone, a girl named Lilly. Lilly was originally picked to go to the New World, but she refuses. Why?
“Because it’s an evil place, run by evil people,” she spits.
It's evil. Not sure why the New World is evil, but you know, we just have to take the random-ass word of a random-ass stranger in order for something to be true.

Since it is so hard to be selected, Sia must surely have so much trouble infiltrating the New World.
I clear my throat. “My name is Lilly Tanner,” I say. “There has been a mistake. My family is in the New World, and I’ve been left behind in the sector.” Lilly’s eyes fill up and I look away from her.
“Oh you poor, poor dear!” The cheery voice returns, startling me. “You must be terrified, all alone in that place. Well, don’t you worry for one second, I will send out an aircraft to collect you."
Maybe not.

There's a secret place in the secret New World where all the secrets are held. It must be so hard to find the Chamber of Secrets (so sorry, Harry Potter).
I find a small separate room, deep in the lab, where the cyborgs are tested. Right where Finn said it would be. The door is locked: Restricted Access printed in bold type and underlined on the door.


Or not.

Will Sia be able to defeat the bad guys, the father and son duo of...
“I’m Cain, Damien’s son.”
No points for originality in naming.

Will Sia be able to stop cat-fighting with the "tough" bitch in time to save the world?
Cass snarls and clears the distance between us in two quick steps. I duck as she lashes out at my face and my hands connect with her middle. I push her backward, but she doesn’t go far. Her face is red and she’s panting. Her hands whip out for my face again and I jump to the side. She screeches with frustration.
The Background of the Setting: Generalized nonspecific dystopian nonsense. The setting is initially lazily built, told through an internalized story.
I think about what they’ll teach in history classes in the New World when all of this is over. I’m guessing they’ll start where we do—climate change and the reduction of the population and extinction of most of the world’s species. Then they’ll discuss how the people were spread out on what was left of the planet. And then how the sectors came about, to round everyone up and create communities where people could stay together, stay safe.
The thing is that it just doesn't make any fucking sense. That is the limit of this book's backstory. Generalized war, disasters, blah blah blah. We don't know how many people are left in the world. We don't know how many sectors there are (and surely there must be so many since there are only 416 people in Sia's sector). The past is poorly built, the government completely unexplained, the system of the "Sectors" is merely limited to the fact that walls were built to protect people (or to keep people from getting out. Dun dun DUUUUUUUUN!). Why would people accept this?! How did people react?! How did this all happen in the first place in, presumably, 'Murica?! Wars? Tell me more. Climate catastrophes? Bullshit, unless this is in year 3000, and we don't know what the fuck year this is. This book is so utterly vague.

The Book's Current Setting: Clumsily built and full of holes. It doesn't make any sense. For one thing, it was mentioned that the population was decimated, ok. So where's all the food coming from? And why are there packaged cereal? Why are there snack bars? Where's all this very 21st century junk food coming from if there aren't many left to create them? Why, if there is such a food shortage, are we not devoting ourselves to farming instead of manufacturing processed food-like-things?

Why, if there's a food shortage and the world is ending in 15 days, are there STILL FOOD in the food store? Let me tell you something about human psychology, people freak the fuck out when something major happens. They stock up on food. They riot. They will kill each other for the last can of beans on the shelves. When the world is going to end in 15 days and people are rioting for food, I don't expect there to be still food on the shelves. Specifically, I don't expect Sia to be able to go around grabbing stuff and able to fill an entire fucking shopping cart in a largely-empty food warehouse.
I run up and down the aisles, grabbing at anything, hardly glancing at what I am picking up. The shopping cart gets heavier and harder to push and I decide I’m done.
And especially not when two people were fighting over a box of cereal in the next aisle when there are better pickings elsewhere.

Where are all the fucking riots? You remember that picture I posted up above? Of the gray planned urban development? That's it. The community is THAT nice and calm. When there's going to be a fucking death call in your community, you bet your ass people are going to freak the fuck out. There are no mentions of people besides, you know, when they actually need to be there for the one sole riot. The book is all Sia, Sia, Sia. The community, the people, how they are reacting to all this, is hardly worth the breath, and they are not mentioned at all. There is no realism in this book's community and psychology.

Why is the government (what government?) so insistent upon killing people off when the entire fucking world has been decimated?
The authorities murdered many of the citizens in the walled sectors, cutting the population down even more.
It's crazy! And the book actually SAYS it's crazy, but then there's just no explanation for it, so that rather defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
But numbers aren’t their concern—quality is. The New World wants to start afresh: rebuild the world and do it better. They want to start again, take control, and make this world the very best that it can be.
Not even the New World makes sense. They want useful people, productive people. People like...musicians.
"We were chosen,” she says, like it’s nothing. It means a lot to be chosen. It means you’re worth something. “My mom and dad are musicians. They’re really talented. My two younger sisters play, too.”
With all due respect to musicians out there, sorry, but you guys are really useless when it comes to rebuilding a new world. This New World needs useful people, valuable people like scientists, engineers. Why the fuck did the New World choose MUSICIANS over DOCTORS?

Sia: No personality, no realism, no development. Sia never felt like a real character. Her development is nonexistent because she's able to pull unicorns and rainbows out of her ass any time she needs to. Which is to say, Sia is capable of nothing initially, but she becomes instantly perfect when the situation calls for it. Sia has never fought a day in her life, but the first day of training, she automatically proves herself a Mary Sue when she kicks the tough girl's ass.
I’m pitted against Cass. She’s fierce and never slows. I jump left and right, dodge her, and avoid what would have been some pretty nasty blows. I even get one in myself, winding her. I try not to smile when she doubles over, clutching her stomach.
Sia is hated by evil Cass for no reason at all that I can see except to elicit sympathy for poor, sweet Sia.Sia has no emotion, even when her mother dies at the beginning of the story. Sia tells us that she screamed endlessly for her. That's it. No emotion, no pain, no true sense of grief.

Whenever Sia is in trouble, magical dragons and rainbows will appear to save her ass. If there is a riot, a boy will appear to save her.
I nod. “Thanks. For helping me, I mean. I don’t know what would have happened to me if you hadn’t been there.”
Even out of nowhere, in the strange New World, ANOTHER boy appears out of thin air to rescue her. Why? She's special. Amazing.
He eases me back, feels for my face in the dark again, and brushes tangled hair out of my eyes. His touch is so gentle, so careful. “Would you like to go home instead?” he whispers.
Deus ex fucking machina is the plot of this book.
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Reading Progress

January 11, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
January 11, 2014 – Shelved
Started Reading
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: ya
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: why-do-i-hate-myself
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: tstl
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: romance
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: dystopian
March 25, 2014 – Shelved as: boring-main-character
March 25, 2014 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Becki (new) - added it

Becki Awe damn. I have an ARC so I have to read it.


message 2: by Katherine (new)

Katherine 50 IQ points... damn, this must have been absolutely horrible!! You've had some horrible luck lately when it comes to books (we won't mention the mess that was See Me...)


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies This is a different sort of horrible, See Me was bad, but laughably bad. This was just painful to read.


message 4: by Brigid (new)

Brigid I'm thinking dystopian needs to be shelved with the vamp genre. It's gotten over glutted to the point where its all just starts to feel like the same book. Your reading, reading, reading....wait, have I read this before? It gets terribly annoying. Just let it go. I've loved some dystopians. But if you're going to write a book, don't write to the market.


message 5: by Little Yams (new)

Little Yams At least it was only 250ish pages :P


message 6: by Rose (new) - added it

Rose I've learned to be very weary of dystopian books as of late. Oh dear, should I ask? Actually...no, I'm just going to patiently wait for your review, and have the forewarning of not losing 50 IQ points myself.


message 7: by Isa (new) - rated it 1 star

Isa "Probably one of the worst dystopian books I've ever read." RIGHT?!


message 8: by Father Lucifer (new)

Father Lucifer sounds as bad as The Moon Dwellers.


Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "I'm thinking dystopian needs to be shelved with the vamp genre. It's gotten over glutted to the point where its all just starts to feel like the same book. Your reading, reading, reading....wait, h..."

I know the feeling, which is why I only tend to go for it if I have a very good gut instinct feeling about it. But I think at this point, something new has to be done. thankfully im not writing to the market lmao

But wow, I really need the review, Khanh. It couldn't have been....that bad, could it? ^^; Or will I lose less IQ points if I read the review instead of the book? Then again, it's you Khanh, if anything, you'll increase our IQs by 50 points! o:


message 10: by Brigid (new)

Brigid Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "I'm thinking dystopian needs to be shelved with the vamp genre. It's gotten over glutted to the point where its all just starts to feel like the same book. Your rea..."

Which is why I'm all for YA epic fantasy! But, other stuff is good too *shrugs* oh, historical fantasy would be awesome too. Get on it!


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Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Which is why I'm all for YA epic fantasy! But, other stuff is good too *shrugs* oh, historical fantasy would be awesome too. Get on it!"

Haha, I most certainly will once I'm done with these infernal essays (one essay requires a website and it was down all weekend, UGH). It'll be much easier to write in-between studying. I just hope I don't screw up anything, especially since various mythologies will appear in it too. I just really hope it's alright. @_@" it's kind of like all of those combined, with possible apocalyptic themes? idk, i just know the romance aint gonna be stupid, if there's ANY, or hopefully anything that makes people groan about thats cliched *sighs* Plus I really miss writing in Zaytan's voice. So delightfully evil...ehehehe.... xD


message 12: by Brigid (last edited Mar 25, 2014 09:52PM) (new)

Brigid Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Which is why I'm all for YA epic fantasy! But, other stuff is good too *shrugs* oh, historical fantasy would be awesome too. Get on it!"

Haha, I most certainly wil..."


awesome name. I love that historical fantasy is basically like a re-written or re-worked version of our own history. Whether you include religion, mythology, belief systems, particular events in history, it all fascinates me. I love fantasy and I love history. I wish there was more great stuff. I enjoy steampunk, but its not really what I view as historical fantasy. Technically, it is. But, I just don't have that much interest in steampunk as much as re-written or re-worked history. Your story sounds really interesting Mairead. Go for it. Sounds like you'll have both fun and mind-numbinly painful headaches trying to make it work *evil laugh*


message 13: by Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) (last edited Mar 25, 2014 09:58PM) (new) - added it

Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Which is why I'm all for YA epic fantasy! But, other stuff is good too *shrugs* oh, historical fantasy would be a..."

*cackles gleefully* I actually have a steampunk historical fantasy plot tucked away somewhere in this series, I don't know if I'll ever write it, but I really want to. And I'm quite fine with the headaches lol. Been working on all of this for 5 years, it's not going away anytime soon, I'll have to write them all eventually before its satisfied. o_o but i will write other books in-between so it doesn't seem like im writing in the same universe repeatedly

And LOL, I feel so awkward, realizing I'm saying all this in Khanh's review of Dark Days. Whoopsies. ^^; My apologises for rambling! @_@"


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Brigid Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "Which is why I'm all for YA epic fantasy! But, other stuff is good too *shrugs* ..."

I've heard for writers: the longer it stays in your head, the better the story will be. You, know.....as long as you work hard to write it.


message 15: by Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) (last edited Mar 25, 2014 10:03PM) (new) - added it

Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "I've heard for writers: the longer it stays in your head, the better the story will be. You, know.....as long as you work hard to write it."

Well that certainly feels like it's true! And I've been working on it, just some people think I'm not doing "work" when I'm writing so I'm given other things to do instead. Or it's university related or I'm at my job (it's hard to find a chance to write some times, especially when you need your notes)... >_<;


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Brigid Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "I've heard for writers: the longer it stays in your head, the better the story will be. You, know.....as long as you work hard to write it."

Well that certainly fe..."


haters.


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Rose I'm almost afraid to say that I can think of a reason why they would need musicians to help with the building of the New World, but then I'd need shovels to dig myself out of the mind gutter I'd built for myself.

Great review!


message 18: by Kribu (new) - added it

Kribu Dammit, I was hoping this one would be ... well, a bit better than that. Sounds like it's chock-full of things that really aren't to my taste. :-/


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Brigid: A lot of dystopians have settings that make no sense, like the mindless killing of people and a vague "climate-change-nuclear-war" premise that go unexplained.

Lilyan: Yep!

Rose: Nooooooooo, I love you too much, and most of my friends have agreed with me, so I know I'm not the only one who hated this book

Isa: I agree with everything in your review

Jeremy: Nooooo. I don't go with the segregation of the sexes premise. It's just silly.

David: Another book I will never touch.

Mairead: It was terrible on all points. The book just felt like it was a first draft because so many things were unfleshed.

Aditi: Yes. That and speed-reading.

Jordyn: I don't know why I keep trying, I love light dystopians, and I don't like epic epic dystopians, but so far I've been disappointed in the YA genre.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Rose wrote: "I'm almost afraid to say that I can think of a reason why they would need musicians to help with the building of the New World, but then I'd need shovels to dig myself out of the mind gutter I'd bu..."

I was about to include a "SORRY, ROSE" note in my review, but I didn't want to single you out :P


Kerri (Book Hoarder) I had to laugh at the swimming and flower field part. I mean, really? At least I know to tag this one as something I don't need to read... You're doing good work, Khanh :P


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Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Okay, I honestly have zero words for this other than:


And my main villain pretty much laughing his freaking head off at the sheer stupidity of this whole thing, and hoped to high undying graces that he does not have to encounter such "protagonists". Personally I agree with him, they're all doomed if she doesn't get the guy she wants. So much for it being dark too...more like "Plotless Days" if anything. What a shame... :/

I agree completely with you, Khanh, this was sad to read even AS a review (you made it a heck of a lot better but there's only so much that can be done to try and undo the damage, I seriously feeeeeel for you gurl, you're a real trooper, not whatsherface). >_<;


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Brigid Mairéad (stuck at the Edge of Nothingness) wrote: "Okay, I honestly have zero words for this other than:


And my main villain pretty much laughing his freaking head off at the sheer stupidity of this whole thing, and hoped to high undying graces t..."


ouch.


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Mairéad (is roaming the Undying Lands) Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "ouch."

Yup, exactly what I was thinking...and here I thought it couldn't seriously be that bad. Yet Khanh continues to prove me wrong in that regard lol. All the cringing and eye twitching at various points that Khanh illustrates here, just made me go "oh you got to be kidding me...FAIL". *sighs* >_<;


message 26: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine God dammit. I was so looking forward to this. But that snippet about Cass and Sia fighting is just painful to read. I now know that I should stay far, far away from this book. Thank you for the heads up.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Helen: the rivalry between Cass and Sia was a minor, very minor blip in the scale of the book, but in every single scene in which the two appear, there was cattiness and hate for no reason whatsoever. That pissed me off.


message 28: by Jo (new)

Jo ★The Book Sloth★ Sometimes I wonder just were you find these books all the time!:P

Better luck next time!


message 29: by Savina (new) - added it

Savina M. My IQ points are slowly slipping away as I read about the plot and the excerpts...
Great review as always, Khanh:)


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Jo: They're sometimes, but not always, ARCs =)

Savina: NOOOOOOOOOO! Thank you for your sacrifice =)


message 31: by Rogier (new)

Rogier I was reading it but had to put it down to focus more on my school exams in June . What I read so far was nothing special . Maybe I'll continue further . *hugs nd kisses *


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies "Nothing special" feels accurate to me =) Good luck with your exams!


message 33: by Stuti (new)

Stuti As Justin Bieber says, "never say never." Oh, Khanh, you did not just.
More girl-on-girl hate, no! Why?! WHY?!
Also, is that neighbourhood a cap from Weeds? It looks a lot like it.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Sorry, Suze! I had to reference the Biebs :P

Nah, it's just a standard suburban stock photo =)


message 35: by Stuti (new)

Stuti Lol well it did make me laugh!
Drat.
Great review though! I'll definitely avoid this one. *shudder*


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies It usually takes a lot for me to separate the author from the book if I know them, however much I like the person, and it took awhile, but I've been able to separate the person from a book and just lose myself in your characters. That's pretty much the highest praise I can give. Your book is a slow burn :D


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I just...can't comprehend how publishers or even authors can look at this and think this is amazing and deserves to be published.


message 38: by readtoomuch (new)

readtoomuch Sounds like this book was even worse than a waste of time. No es bueno.


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

readtoomuch wrote: "Sounds like this book was even worse than a waste of time. No es bueno."

I feel you. There aren't that many good dystopian's lately


message 40: by readtoomuch (new)

readtoomuch Kat wrote: "readtoomuch wrote: "Sounds like this book was even worse than a waste of time. No es bueno."

I feel you. There aren't that many good dystopian's lately"


I don't even need or expect an original plot or storyline, but lately, even the writing is something left to be desired. I mean, c'mon, give me more than just an interesting blurb.


message 41: by Mike (last edited Mar 26, 2014 02:58PM) (new)

Mike Looks like this calls for for bad YA dystopian score card:

Why is there a dystopia:
-Generic environmental disaster: 15 points
-Specific environmental disaster: 10 points
-Specific environmental disaster with reasonable consequences for humanity that reasonably led to the current state of affairs: 1 point (wasted too much time NOT talking about dreamy, mysterious boys)
-Some sort of global nuclear war that somehow did not wipe out all of humanity: 15 points
-ZOMBIES!!11!1!!1!: 10 points (+5 points the protagonist somehow is key to finding a cure)
-Plague that wipes out 9X% of humanity yet leaves intact a mostly (if not exclusively) white community for the story to take place in: +20 points (+5 points the protagonist somehow is key to finding a cure)
Aliens: +5 points (+5 points if they are here to claim some resource that is abundant somewhere else in the galaxy (eg: water, oxygen, etc.; +10 points if the protagonist "falls in love" with one of the invaders)
Aliens that look just like us: +10 points (No points if they only look like us due to technology/shapeshifting; +15 points if they all look like an idealized version of humans which the protagonist falls in love with) [Hat Tip to Sophia and Kribu]
Robots: +5 points; robots just aren't the IT thing now though +5 points if the protagonist is some sort of awesome hacker for no discernible reason.

What sort of government does the dystopia have?
-Vague, menacing, all powerful, evil authoritarian state: +5 points
-Evil, shortsighted, greedy corporations run everything and are only motivated by money even though money has no intrinsic value and humanity was just nearly wiped out: +10 points
-Incompetent, irrational, evil authoritarian state that kills off its populace for no clear reason: +15 points (+5 points if it makes its populace compete in some sort of death games on a regular basis because frack you, that's why)
-Big Brother: -10 points, some old English guy did that, like 40 years ago or something. At least name it something else, like "Overly Helpful Uncle" or "Just looking out for your best interest Aunt"
-Communal, democratic councils that hold regular public debates to best allocate scarce resource among survivors of aforementioned disaster: -15 points, not a suitable villain for the protagonist

What sort of society is on this dystopia?
-You know, mostly the same as before, but less fashionable clothes, fewer bathes, and lots of canned food: +10 points
-White people. White people everywhere: +10 points
-Mostly white people, but the occasional person of color to add some flair to the pasty white societal backdrop; also to offer folksy advice or "stories from their ancestors" to aid the protagonist: +20 points (+1 point per piece of folksy advice)
-Massive wealth stratification as the Haves live the life of decadence while the Havenots the life of squalor because screw them anyway: +10 points (+10 points if the Haves possess the means to lift all of humanity our of squalor but choose not to because they are pricks)
-Massive wealth stratification as the Haves live the life of decadence while the Havenots the life of squalor as a natural result of current day social, political, and economic policies and institutions: -25 points (what are, you sort of communist? Who do you think prints these books anyway, "The Peoples Book Press"? No, capitalists do, so shut your gob whole and talk about the evils of big government)
-A radical change in the social ordering the emphasizes cooperation and sharing of scarce resources to preserve the last bastion of humanity: +0 points (discussions on resource allocations should be left to economists, not YA dystopias; plus how exciting could grain quotas and rationing be?)

Additions are more than welcomed.


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And my haha-no shelf grows larger.


Spider the Doof Warrior I don't know. I need my music. Life without music would be so UGH. Maybe they should have musical doctors.


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Rose Litchick (is stuck in the 19th century) wrote: "This might sound really shitty, but reviews like this make me feel sooooo much better about my own writing."

If it makes you feel any better, I somewhat feel the same way, because at least my writing doesn't fall into too many familiar tropes or has something unique that makes it stand out even if there are familiar elements in them.

And this is coming from someone who likes dystopian type novels (I've written two that are not based in the U.S. or focused on LIs/"tru luv." More like suspense/thriller.)


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Rose Synesthesia wrote: "I don't know. I need my music. Life without music would be so UGH. Maybe they should have musical doctors."

Ha, I like that idea. ^_^


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Mike wrote: "Looks like this calls for for bad YA dystopian score card:

Why is there a dystopia:
-Generic environmental disaster: 15 points
-Specific environmental disaster: 10 points
-Specific environmental d..."


HAH. Can I just say you're scorecards are pretty epic.


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readtoomuch wrote: "Kat wrote: "readtoomuch wrote: "Sounds like this book was even worse than a waste of time. No es bueno."

I feel you. There aren't that many good dystopian's lately"

I don't even need or expect a..."


That's all that gets me, the blurbs!! They sound so great and wonderful, then you end up being disappointed :/


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Mike Kat wrote: "HAH. Can I just say you're scorecards are pretty epic. "

Thanks, I aim to please. Khanh does such a good job with her many reviews that I get a pretty good sense what the major problems are in these genres even though I don't read them (I read mostly sci-fi and fantasy). Throw in a dash of hyperbole and a massive load of cynicism and the lists practically write themselves. Glad you appreciate them!


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Kuroi Good thing his name isn't Maize. I can't take any more corny names...


message 50: by Mike (new)

Mike Krishna wrote: "Good thing his name isn't Maize. I can't take any more corny names..."

There is more than a kernel of truth there.


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