Cinderbane gloves

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Cinderbane gloves



Release																				25 September 2017 (Update)
Members																				Yes
Quest item																				No

Properties

Tradeable																				Yes
Stacks in bank																				Yes
Equipable																				Yes
Stackable																				No
Disassembly																				Yes
Noteable																				Yes
Destroy																				Drop
Examine																				Gloves imbued with mushrooms from the lost grove. Used to apply a burning poison to enemies.

Options ^[?]

Backpack																				Wear, Check charges, Use, Drop, Examine
Equipped																				Remove, Check charges, Examine
Bank^[?]																				Wear

Values

Value																				50,000 coins
High alch																				30,000 coins
Low alch																				20,000 coins
On death																				Reclaimable Value: 85,506,969 Reclaim: 85,506
Weight																				0.226 kg

Grand Exchange

Exchange																				85,506,969 coins (info)
Buy limit																				2
Volume																				121
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Advanced data

Item ID																				41106
Links																				MRID • recipe

Cinderbane gloves are hybrid power gloves that can be obtained as a drop from Lost Grove creatures and Solak. They are tier 85 hybrid armour (i.e. tier 70 equivalent), with tier 70 damage bonus. They additionally have a passive effect that applies poison with a ¹⁄₈^[1] (12.5%) chance per hit to targets (including multi-target abilities like Ricochet, as well as those hit by the dwarf multicannon and variants) while worn and increases the base poison damage coefficient, stacking with kwuarm incense sticks and weapon poison.^[2]^[3] This effect does not apply to poison-immune targets.

If the target is already poisoned, the gloves add a ¹⁄₈ (12.5%) chance for poison hits to refresh the poison effect and deal an extra hit. This extra hit can do the same and so on, potentially causing a chain of rapid poison hits.

These gloves have slightly better stats than atrocious rogue gloves with the poisoning effect, but are degradable and lack the latter's life point bonus.

Cinderbane gloves degrade to a broken state over 60,000 charges of combat. They can be repaired by a character capable of repairing equipment for 300,000 coins, or for less on an armour stand. Attempting to wear the fully repaired gloves produces a confirmation prompt warning about them changing into an untradeable variant.

Combat stats[edit | edit source]

Class		Slot
Requirements		Degrades
85		60,000 charges
Hybrid
Tier		Type
85		Power armour
	Auto		Ability
Damage	-		-
Accuracy	-
Style	-
Range	-
Attributes				Damage reduction
Armour			74.3	PvM: 0%		PvP: 0%
Life points			0	Style bonuses
Prayer			0	11.0	11.0	11.0	11.0

Poison effect[edit | edit source]

Cinderbane gloves have a passive effect that greatly improves the chance for poison hits and increases the tier of the poison used. Cinderbane gloves' passive effect only works on monsters that are susceptible to poison damage.

The poison effects of the cinderbane gloves are:

¹⁄₈ (12.5%) chance to apply tier 2 poison on hit.
If used with another source of poison, they increase the tier of poison by 1.
If the target is already poisoned, reapplying poison will deal an additional poison hit and refresh the poison effect.
- This additional hit can itself reapply the poison, causing an additional poison hit, so an additional poison hit can be expected to happen $\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} 1 / 8^{n} = 1 / 7$ of the time on average.
If cinderbane gloves do not activate within 16 ticks^{[clarification needed]}, you get a guaranteed poison activation. This happens rather rarely.

Damage estimates[edit | edit source]

In the following bleeds are assumed to be used with weapon poison+++, and other hit-increasing things like Deflect Curses, god books, or armour spikes are not. Assuming 2,158 ability damage, the poison damage is $39 % \times 2, 158 \approx 842$ per activation.

Different combat styles yield different amount of poisonable hits per minute, so the player's damage per minute will increase by the following values, considering that cinderbane gloves' effect happens ¹⁄₇ of the time on average:

With ranged, approximately 105 poisonable hits occur per minute for approximately $1 / 7 \times 105 \times 842 = 12, 630$ extra damage.
With magic, approximately 82 poisonable hits occur per minute for approximately $1 / 7 \times 82 \times 842 \approx 9, 863$ extra damage.
With melee, approximately 100 poisonable hits occur per minute for approximately $1 / 7 \times 100 \times 842 \approx 12, 029$ extra damage.

Approximately another 1,000 damage should be added to these values to account for the 16-tick poison activations.

Bosses[edit | edit source]

Bosses susceptible to poison[edit | edit source]

The following bosses can be poisoned and can therefore receive increased poison damage from cinderbane gloves' effect.

All bosses within the TzHaar Fight Cave and Fight Kiln:
Some Elder God Wars Dungeon bosses:
- Arch-Glacor
- Kerapac, the bound
Some Heart of Gielinor bosses:
The Rex Matriarchs:
All bosses within The Shadow Reef:
All bosses within the Dragonkin Laboratory:
Some bosses within the Temple of Aminishi:
- Masuta the Ascended
- The Sanctum Guardian
All Barrows Brothers (regular Barrows only):
All three Dagannoth Kings:
Miscellaneous bosses:

Bosses immune to poison[edit | edit source]

The following bosses can't be poisoned and therefore are immune to the cinderbane gloves' effect.

Araxxor and Araxxi
All brothers in Barrows: Rise of the Six
Beastmaster Durzag^{[Bosses 1]}
All bosses within the God Wars Dungeon:
Legiones
Osseous
Queen Black Dragon
Raksha, the Shadow Colossus
Rasial, the First Necromancer
All bosses with the Sanctum of Rebirth:
Seiryu the Azure Serpent
Twin Furies^{[Bosses 2]}
TzKal-Zuk^{[Bosses 3]}
Vindicta and Gorvek
Vorago
Yakamaru^{[Bosses 4]}
Zamorak, Lord of Chaos
Zemouregal & Vorkath

^ Durzag himself cannot be poisoned, but all three of his pets and the chargers summoned during the fight can be poisoned.
^ The Twin Furies can be poisoned, but their shared health does not decrease from poison damage.
^ TzKal-Zuk himself cannot be poisoned, however all monsters in the seventeen waves leading to him can be poisoned.
^ Yakamaru itself cannot be poisoned, but the jellyfish minions summoned during the fight can all be poisoned.

Synergies[edit | edit source]

Cinderbane gloves synergise very well with anything that can increase poison damage or add extra hits per minute. The extra hits per minute each provide a chance for the cinderbane gloves' effect to activate. This can lead to things that otherwise do very minimal damage having a very noticeable impact on your damage per minute.

Synergies because they increase hits per minute[edit | edit source]

Item	Effect	Approximate increase in hits per minute
Wyvern crossbow	The passive adds additional small poison hits	35
Dwarf multicannon, Oldak coil, and kinetic cyclone	Adds	12–150 depending upon how many targets
Armour spikes and armour spikes (alloy)	Adds a hit every time you get hit in melee distance	20–33 in single target scenarios
Greater Dazing Shot's puncture damage	Small additional hits whenever you use the greater dazing shot ability	20
Deflect Curses	Reflects damage back to your target	12–20
Illuminated god book		3–15 Some god books hit more than others
Eldritch crossbow special attack	Turns soul split healing into damage hit splats	15–100, varying significantly depending upon rotation
Ancestor spirits aura and dark magic aura	These auras cause additional hit splats	8
Bleed abilities		Variable
Reflecting blood essence
Abyssal scourge	Abyssal Parasite hits every 1.8 seconds	33 in single-target scenarios

Synergies because they increase poison damage[edit | edit source]

Item	Effect	Approximate poison damage increase
Laniakea's Spear	Increases the chance of inflicting poison by 5% and increases poison damage dealt by 5%	56%
Sophanem Slayer Dungeon corruption	Increases all damage dealt and received by 25%	25%
Vulnerability	Increases all damage by 10%	10%
Kwuarm incense sticks	2.5% extra poison damage per stack (maximum of 4 stacks)	2.5–10%

Drop sources[edit | edit source]

For an exhaustive list of all known sources for this item, see here.

^ ^a ^b ^c 1/1,500 chance during a Slayer task; 1/5,000 chance otherwise.

The drop rate for all three Lost Grove Slayer creatures is 1/1,500 while on a Slayer assignment for them, and 1/5,000 off-task.^[4]

Repair cost[edit | edit source]

This item costs at most 300,000 coins to repair completely. The repair cost is calculated by the degradation percentage rounded down (e.g. with 75.5% charge remaining, a full repair would only cost 75,000 coins). It may be repaired through a variety of methods.

Non-player characters[edit source]

These methods cost more as they do not consider the player's Smithing level for a repair discount.

Bob—the axe seller in Lumbridge
Tindel Marchant—the weapon and armour repairman at Port Khazard
Dunstan—the smith in Burthorpe
Squire—in the workshop area of the Void Knights' Outpost

Improved methods[edit source]

These methods provide a repair cost discount of 0.5% per Smithing level (including boosts):

An armour stand in a player-owned house
A whetstone, which can be used anywhere
The Item Repair ability of a legendary pet, which can be used once per hour

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Usage cost[edit | edit source]

Per hour
Combat charges	60,000
Method	Character capable of repairing equipment, armour stand, whetstone
Item(s) consumed	300,000 x Coins^{[uc 1]}
Total GE price	300,000
Average rate^{[uc 2]}	9,000
High rate^{[uc 3]}	18,000
Maximum rate^{[uc 4]}	30,000

^ Cost at armour stand and whetstone is reduced by 0.5% per Smithing level (Reductions of 50% at 99 Smithing, 55.5% at 110 Smithing).
^ 1,800 charges per hour.
^ 3,600 charges per hour.
^ 6,000 charges per hour.

Comparison with other gloves[edit | edit source]

Disassembly[edit | edit source]

Cinderbane gloves

Disassembly category

Hybrid armour

Disassembly XP

25.5

Item quantity required

1

Material count

4

Base junk chance

1.0%

Common materials

Cover parts

45/99

Deflecting parts

45/99

Rare materials

Powerful components

3/99

Evasive components

3/99

Protective components

3/99

Transcript[edit | edit source]

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Update history[edit | edit source]

This information has been compiled as part of the update history project. Some updates may not be included – see here for how to help out!

update 7 August 2023 (Update):
- Given a 11.0 Necromancy damage bonus.

patch 27 September 2021 (Update):
- The Cinderbane Gloves now correctly apply their Poison effect.

patch 20 January 2020 (Update):
- Can no longer equip broken Cinderbane gloves from the bank.
- Used Cinderbane gloves will now drop in PvP.

patch 16 December 2019 (Update):
- Using Cinderbanes with Weapon Poison+++ applied will now correctly scale the poison damage above Weapon Poison++.

hotfix 11 December 2019:
- Weapon poison +++ now correctly stacks to Tier 5 poison with the addition of Cinderbane gloves.^[5]

patch 28 May 2019 (Update):
- Various items that hold charge like the Amulet of Souls and Cinderbane gloves, will no longer give you the 5% degrade warning when they hit 43%.

patch 9 April 2018 (Update):
- Cinderbane glove drops now show up on the Runemetrics activity page.

update 25 September 2017 (Update):
- Added to game.

Trivia[edit | edit source]

There was a bug where using cinderbane gloves could apply poison damage to fonts in the fifth phase of Telos, the Warden, potentially destroying them for the rest of the fight and making it impossible to use them to defend against his instant kill attack. This bug has since been fixed.

References[edit | edit source]

^ Mod Sponge. Message in #misc-theorycrafting of PvME server. Discord. 12 November 2019. (Archived from the original on 26 February 2023.) "Poison chance is 1/8 iirc, think I updated the poison potion tooltips when I made laniakea's."
^ Mod Maylea. Monday Update Feedback - 25 March. Reddit. 26 March 2019. (Archived from the original on 24 May 2021.) Mod Maylea: "You start with the damage of weapon poison. Better poison uses a coefficient to scale the damage up. That damage is the value Kwuarm incense uses to calculate its boost. Cinderbane gloves add to the scaling coefficient before the the final damage is calculated and the Kwuarm boost added."
^ Mod Breezy. Message in #ranch-out-of-time channel of official RuneScape Discord server. Discord. 12 November 2019. (Archived from the original on 26 February 2023.) "Yeah they affect base poison damage too so the "scalar" in code is like; tier 1 poison - 50; tier 2 - 100; tier 3 - 150; tier 4 - 200; tier 5 - 250; the current highest is weapon poison++ at tier 3 PLUS cinders = tier 4; with the update, wep pois+++will allow it to go to tier 5 with Cinders."
^ Jagex. Mod Timbo's Twitter account. 14 February 2018. (Archived from the original on 22 October 2020.) Mod Timbo: "1/1,500 on task, 1/5,000 off-task."
^ Jagex. Mod Ramen's Twitter account. 11 December 2019. (Archived from the original on 22 October 2020.) Mod Ramen: "This is now hotfixed and working as intended. Weapon poison +++ now correctly stacks to Tier 5 poison with the addition of Cinderbane gloves."

[beastmaster-4] Durzag himself cannot be poisoned, but all three of his pets and the chargers summoned during the fight can be poisoned.

[twinfuries-5] The Twin Furies can be poisoned, but their shared health does not decrease from poison damage.

[TzKal-Zuk-6] TzKal-Zuk himself cannot be poisoned, however all monsters in the seventeen waves leading to him can be poisoned.

[yakamaru-7] Yakamaru itself cannot be poisoned, but the jellyfish minions summoned during the fight can all be poisoned.

[dropsrc_r_ref_1_1-8] 1/1,500 chance during a Slayer task; 1/5,000 chance otherwise.

[smithing-10] Cost at armour stand and whetstone is reduced by 0.5% per Smithing level (Reductions of 50% at 99 Smithing, 55.5% at 110 Smithing).

[rate1-11] 1,800 charges per hour.

[rate2-12] 3,600 charges per hour.

[rate3-13] 6,000 charges per hour.

[1] Mod Sponge. Message in #misc-theorycrafting of PvME server. Discord. 12 November 2019. (Archived from the original on 26 February 2023.) "Poison chance is 1/8 iirc, think I updated the poison potion tooltips when I made laniakea's."

[2] Mod Maylea. Monday Update Feedback - 25 March. Reddit. 26 March 2019. (Archived from the original on 24 May 2021.) Mod Maylea: "You start with the damage of weapon poison. Better poison uses a coefficient to scale the damage up. That damage is the value Kwuarm incense uses to calculate its boost. Cinderbane gloves add to the scaling coefficient before the the final damage is calculated and the Kwuarm boost added."

[3] Mod Breezy. Message in #ranch-out-of-time channel of official RuneScape Discord server. Discord. 12 November 2019. (Archived from the original on 26 February 2023.) "Yeah they affect base poison damage too so the "scalar" in code is like; tier 1 poison - 50; tier 2 - 100; tier 3 - 150; tier 4 - 200; tier 5 - 250; the current highest is weapon poison++ at tier 3 PLUS cinders = tier 4; with the update, wep pois+++will allow it to go to tier 5 with Cinders."

[9] Jagex. Mod Timbo's Twitter account. 14 February 2018. (Archived from the original on 22 October 2020.) Mod Timbo: "1/1,500 on task, 1/5,000 off-task."

[14] Jagex. Mod Ramen's Twitter account. 11 December 2019. (Archived from the original on 22 October 2020.) Mod Ramen: "This is now hotfixed and working as intended. Weapon poison +++ now correctly stacks to Tier 5 poison with the addition of Cinderbane gloves."

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[Bosses 2]

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[Bosses 4]

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[uc 1]

[uc 2]

[uc 3]

[uc 4]

[5]

Source	Level	Quantity	Rarity
Bulbous crawler	140	1	1/5,000; 1/1,500^{[f 1]}
Moss golem	140	1	1/5,000; 1/1,500^{[f 1]}
Solak, Guardian of the Grove	2,000; 7,000	1	1/1,000
Vinecrawler	140	1	1/5,000; 1/1,500^{[f 1]}

v • d • e RS3 Hybrid gloves
All	Pathfinder Klank's Void ^(Superior) Obsidian Dragon rider ^(Superior)
Hybrid	Spiked Dragonstone Karamja ^{(1 • 2 • 3 • 4)} High Armour of Hanto Crystal ^(Attuned) Gemstone Trials Globetrotter Challenger Cinderbane Deathtouch
Culinaromancer	1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Warpriest	Armadyl ^(Golden) Bandos ^(Golden) Saradomin ^(Golden) Zamorak ^(Golden) Tuska
Minigame	Battle-mage Trickster Vanguard
Rogue	Corrupt Nasty Malicious Loathsome Atrocious

Cinderbane gloves

Contents

Combat stats[edit | edit source]

Poison effect[edit | edit source]

Damage estimates[edit | edit source]

Bosses[edit | edit source]

Bosses susceptible to poison[edit | edit source]

Bosses immune to poison[edit | edit source]

Synergies[edit | edit source]

Synergies because they increase hits per minute[edit | edit source]

Synergies because they increase poison damage[edit | edit source]

Drop sources[edit | edit source]

Repair cost[edit | edit source]

Non-player characters[edit source]

Improved methods[edit source]

Usage cost[edit | edit source]

Comparison with other gloves[edit | edit source]

Disassembly[edit | edit source]

Transcript[edit | edit source]

Update history[edit | edit source]

Trivia[edit | edit source]

References[edit | edit source]

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